From: Terry
To: Sid
Thoughts on Infinity War - saw the post on the IR blog you saw the IMAX 3D version. Worthy of Big Ed’s first trip to the movie theatre?Hey, Terry. Should Avengers: Infinity War be your son's first opportunity to see a movie on the big screen?
- Terry
Hmmm...
Nope. Nope nope nope nope nope.
Not that it's a bad movie, rather the opposite, but let me give you some fairly spoiler-free information about the film. Infinity War does NOT have a happy ending. Or a happy start. Or a happy middle. No spoilers, but the good guys lose, and a lot of people die. No, let me rephrase that: A LOT OF PEOPLE DIE. A lot of them are the good guys. I went to a screening where a lot of adults were audibly expressing their shock, it might be a bit much for Ed, who is what now, six (or seven)?
Now, admittedly, it's the first of two movies, and my long-term experience with comic book plotting (and the original comic book version of this story) tells me that a lot of the people who aren't around at the end of this movie will almost definitely be back by the end of the sequel, but that might be an abstract expectation to explain to a six (or seven) year old.
Or maybe he'll be fine, it's not like I have a lot of experience with six (or seven) year old children. It's certainly an epic film, and it literally spans the universe, so there's certainly lots and lots of eye candy for young Edward. If you go either with Eddie or perhaps decide to go on your own (or with your wife, get oba-chan to watch the kids) I strongly recommend 3D - and if IMAX is an option, do that too.
It's also pretty much the definition of action-packed, so at least Edward wouldn't be bored, although it is quite a long movie. It goes from battle to battle and climax to climax without a break - a struggle for the Asgardian refugee ship, another clash in the skies of New York, combat in Edinburgh to save the Vision, Thor's quest for a new weapon with which to focus his godhood, one team racing Thanos to Knowhere to obtain the Reality Stone, another going head to head with Thanos on his destroyed homeworld of Titan, a third fighting alien armies in Wakanda, and the successive shocks that mark the final confrontation. It actually gets tiring after a while - you can only be astonished so many times in 160 minutes, after all.
However, if any of those scene descriptions made no sense at all to you, you've obviously missed a few movies. Because this is such a full court press for the Marvel Comics Universe, you pretty much need to have seen everything from Marvel going back as far as the first Captain America movie or a lot of what's going on will be a mystery to you. (Okay, you can skip Ant-Man, nothing is referenced from there - I think...) For a very minor example, I felt that they completely wasted the potential of the long-awaited phone call from Tony Stark to Steve Rogers - which, again, is going to make no sense to you if you missed Civil War. Has Edward seen all the other films?
In addition to all the references to the other movies, they've included a few Easter Eggs aimed at the long-term comics fan: without very much fanfare, Tony Stark appears to have switched to the Extremis nanotech armour that debuted in the Iron Man comic back in 2005, and we see Spider-Man using the Iron Spider armour, complete with extra legs, that first appeared in The Amazing Spider-Man #529 in 2006. Given that Edward is six (or seven) it's unlikely he's familiar with the back issues of either comic book.
For myself, that sort of background knowledge* meant that I had a pretty good idea of where the story would end up, thanks to familiarity with the original 1991 Infinity Gauntlet comic book series by writer Jim Starlin and artist George Pérez.
Speaking of which, the script writers have managed to make Thanos, the mad Death-loving** Titan of the comics, into a surprisingly sympathetic character for the film - okay, sympathetic to a point, he's still the villain, regardless of the sacrifices he makes, and he's unlikely to be voted Father of the Year, either. There's been a lot of discussion about Thanos' solution to the problem of the inevitable (in his mind, at least) exhaustion of the universe's resources - again, no spoilers, but the consensus is that having infinite power would give him options other than the one he chooses.
Because it's such a busy movie, there are some things that are just glossed over: no one ever explains why Peter Dinklage is the tallest person in the film, how Vision is able to look like a human, or why Bucky has been released from suspended animation. Or maybe they're comic book references that I just didn't recognize, you're welcome to look those up if you're curious.
My final advice? Take him to Solo instead. It's apparently full of Star Warsy goodness, it's half an hour shorter, and I'm more than a little confident that Han and Chewie will both be alive at the end - which sounds like a better ending for a kid who's only six. Or seven.
- Sid
* No, I don't mean that I remember in what specific issue of Spider-Man the Iron Spider first appeared, but I recognized what it was. Same with the Extremis armour.
** In the original comics, Thanos is literally in love with Death - the female personification of the end of life.
Well just going on Sid's point of unhappy movies, I remember seeing Empire Strikes Back when I was almost 9 and I remember being unhappy for three days or so because of the sad ending. For an adult that is nothing but as a child it is different. I had seen the first movie so I had more invested in the characters - especially having played with the toys in the interim (for the kid that is almost like another movie as you get to invent adventures for them and the playability of Han went down significantly after he was frozen). Also Empire was more of an adult movie rather than a fairy tale this time round, which is what Infinity War would be compared to, let's say Spider Man Homecoming.
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